Here are my ROUGH notes from the telecall between Eben Pagan and Frank Kern.

It was quite an un-orthodox call, and it could seem like Frank took Eben by surprise.

But remember these are 2 very shrewd cookies and even though it was probably un-rehearsed, Eben knew exactly where Frank was trying to lead him.

The telecall appears to be incredibly revealing and nothing to do with selling, other than the subliminal triggers where Frank (several times) says along the lines of “well doing a hard sales pitch is just so lame these days, I’m glad we’re not doing that”

My analysis of this may seem too conspiracy theory for you, but this is Frank Kern (Mr Mass Control) we are talking about, and Eben Pagan apparently taught Frank some stuff.

But both of these gurus are well read and have studied true masterminds like Mark Joyner.

Mark Joyner originally withdrew his book on “Mind Control” from the market because he thought it was too powerful for the time. When he re-launched it recently, the video images of Adolf Hitler were not there by accident.

I’m not going to reveal what the mind control technique is here, but you can be assured it was contained within this unscripted teleconference call between Frank and Eben.
There are also a LOT of triggers on this call. I almost started crying at one point. Sure I am weak and disturbed, but that isn’t what mental triggers are about. When they are implemented to change you own perceptions about yourself, in seemingly innocent ways, then that can be some very efficient mind control going on, which conjures up those sorts of emotions.

ark Joyner used to work for USA military intelligence. Soldiers are prepared to die in battle. Join the dots yourself

Whilst there is some very useful stuff in this call, potentially life changing stuff, it should not be about giving Pagan $1000 per month to join some la la club, or inner circle of rich people. Note how this fact is dissed with “people who bitch are usually poor”. Doesn’t mean poor people are always wrong

In my comment on Kern’s blog as to why I would (probably) never give Pagan or Kern my money, I mentioned the thing than Kern and Pagan never address.

To find out what that thing is, you’re going to have to get to know me a little better.

In a month or so, I will be releasing a psychological test, which will help people to decide where they fit. I hope that will then explain my stand point.

My blog comment on MassControl.com

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Wow Frank
I’m not sure!

It’s interesting to hear about the man behind Eben Pagan and in “some ways” I have more respect for him now.

But Eben works at the high end of mentoring and it is his detatched professionalism which makes him eligible for those big bucks fees.

For “me” this detached professionalism is what Eben brings to the pool. Disparate from most of the “regular guy” gurus, like your good yourself. So the fact that Eben had a “poor boy makes good” story, and can still be the detached professional is in some ways more inspiring.

But I still wouldn’t give my money to Eben for another reason, which neither of you cover.

Peter
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That was my comment on Frank Kern’s (Mass Control) telecall with Eben Pagan (Mastermind guru).

Here are my rough notes form the 90 minute tele conference call.

Eben Pagan on his evolution from poor boy to multi-millionaire.

Step 1: “get one million people to each give me a dollar” - scheming, insidious mindset, rarely happens. A “TAKE” ethic.

Step 2: “Work hard like everybody else.” Trade time for money. (Limited hours in day. Hard to be rich.)

Step 3: “Give $100 of value to a million people and ask them if they’d pay $10 for it after.”
A “GIVE” ethic. A rich mindset vs a poverty mindset.

80% of people who win the lottery, waste it and are poorer in 5 years time than they were before they had won. Eben blames this on the “poverty mindset”

The Internal belief system:

Get over your fears.

Your beliefs are un-conscious.

If you’ve come from a negative programming environment (the normal scenario when your parents are not as successful as you want to be) this fail and be poor mindset is deep seated in your un-conscious.
(Maybe Eben means sub-conscious? I thought un-conscious was like a comma?)

Einstein said of life “IS the universe a friendly place?” If you see the inverse this way, that’s how it becomes. That’s how people react to you. That’s how successful people react to you. Your attitude towards reality impacts the reality.

Self appointment - Deserving and Permission Affirmations:

“I deserve all the success I can attract.”

“I give myself permission to succeed.”

The Australian tall poppy story - People have a natural tendency to cut back the too tall poppy (the tall poppy is a metaphor for the successful person).
Hang out with people who are NOT tall poppy cutters, or who are tall poppies themselves.

You are the sum total of the people who hang out with. They form your internal map.

“People who bitch, are normally always poor themselves”.

Think and grow rich - Napoleon Hill.

• You have to have a mastermind.
• The reference group.

Your reference group:

Look at your five top friends and average them out and that is you.

Look at their financial status. Their success. Their values. Their energy. Their optimism. Their happiness.

They will always hold you back to their level (the tall poppy).

Realising that “oh for some people, making money is just normal for some people” Eben Pagan.

“Money is like water. It’s a thing. Money is no different to water. There’s so much of it out there, all you have to do is believe you can turn the tap on.” Frank Kern.

Money is the means, not the ends. It merely represents the value of the transaction between we people. Creating value for people, and not worrying about the money. ” Eben Pagan

“If you spend all your time worrying about petrol for the car, instead of getting to where you want to go, you don’t get there.” Eben Pagan

“Getting out of the scarcity mindset. If I give away stuff, someone will get 1 over on me. Like the monkey trapped holding the nut. He gets killed, because he’s too selfish to let go of the nut. Until you can get over that mindset, you can’t have success.” Eben Pagan

1h 6m in…

“Hiding from reality and people. Not being authentic. You’re not your mask or persona. What ever game you are playing, is not who you are. Your real power lies beyond the crowd BS. Stop faking it to seek someones approval or attention. Lost touch with the spark. The real source, the real you, is where the energy comes from.”

“Google, the coolest most successful company on the planet, organises information.” DOH!

Advice is information. You can sell advice for 10x. The library vs. the doctor. Unquestionable bill from the doctor.

The modern authority expert, is not a PHD, but the person who can do it.

Snake oil salesman vs the genuine teacher. (Giving real value. Not faking it for the money.)